Have you ever looked at someone’s life and thought, How the heck did they do all that?!

That’s how I felt after talking to this week’s guest, Dana Ayers, a woman whose resume reads like an action movie. She’s a former White House staffer, a decorated Navy veteran, a strategic communications pro, an author, a public speaker... and yes, even a cover band singer. (We told you this was going to be a wild ride.)

But this episode isn’t just about the cool titles, it’s about the moments and mindsets that got her there.

Following the Breadcrumbs
Dana didn’t have it all planned out. In fact, her journey started with a desire to wear suits and live in a city (relatable, right?). One fateful internship at the White House on 9/11 set her life on an entirely new trajectory, eventually leading her into Homeland Security, military service, and global deployments.

The thread that ties it all together? Curiosity. Dana followed her gut and said yes to opportunities, even (especially!) when she felt unqualified.

Getting Out of Your Own Damn Way

We dive into what keeps so many of us stuck: fear of failure, judgment, or not being "ready." Dana flips that narrative on its head.

Her advice? Don’t wait until you feel ready. Try things quietly. Let yourself be a beginner. Dabbling can lead to clarity. And failure? It’s just data pointing you to what’s next.

From Green Rooms to War Zones
Oh, and just wait until you hear her stories about running events for foreign dignitaries, managing celebrities backstage (including Bill Gates and Bill Clinton), and talking into a cat box while recording her audiobook during COVID.

Dana’s stories are hilarious, heartfelt, and packed with wisdom. You’ll laugh, you might cry, and you’ll definitely leave inspired to stop holding yourself back.

Key Takeaway:
Your dreams don’t have to make sense to anyone else. You don’t need permission. And you’re never too late to start.

Listen to the full episode now and check out Dana’s book, Confessions of an Unlikely Runner, for even more insight into living boldly, even when you’re not sure what you’re doing

Learn more about Dana Ayers

Dana Ayers is an author, speaker, decorated veteran, and long-time national security professional. She’s someone who thrives on inspiring others to push their limits and achieve their goals. Dana has burrowed her way into all sorts of places she had no business being, including herding celebrities in green rooms, working as an armed communicator in Afghanistan, serving as a White House staffer, and advising special forces. She is passionate about sharing insights she's learned for getting out of her comfort zone and going after dreams where she didn’t fit the typical mold.